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- Thread starter Cereal
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oooo...recognise that icon in their dock
http://cdn.rsc02.net/ig.rsc02.net/responsysimages/vmwi/__RS_CP__/mac_screenshot_large.png [vmware site]
http://cdn.rsc02.net/ig.rsc02.net/responsysimages/vmwi/__RS_CP__/mac_screenshot_large.png [vmware site]
Aye that as one of the first things I noticed, but it makes sense seeing they want to check out the competition.
However the first thing that caught my eye was the interface, personally the main reason I like VMWare of Parallels is the ability to have all my sessions in one window and being able to tab to each one. It looks like the mac version will not have feature but I hope I am mistaken and it will have a similar interface as the Windows counterpart other wise I see no reason to leave Parallels as I have already recreated all of my images that I had for VMWare on Parallels.
-Unshra
However the first thing that caught my eye was the interface, personally the main reason I like VMWare of Parallels is the ability to have all my sessions in one window and being able to tab to each one. It looks like the mac version will not have feature but I hope I am mistaken and it will have a similar interface as the Windows counterpart other wise I see no reason to leave Parallels as I have already recreated all of my images that I had for VMWare on Parallels.
-Unshra
Well, for me, the interesting question is the actual feature list - the vmware verison is not available yet and a lot will depend on whether they can provide the features that Parallels won't have when VMWare version is actually released.
There's an old rule of thumb for determining the success of a product. You have to be either
First,
Cheapest,
Best.
Right now, Parallels has all three since there's nothing else out there (Virtual PC doesn't count). When VMWare version comes out, Parallels will still have been first, they'll probably still be cheaper and "Best" will be interesting.
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There's an old rule of thumb for determining the success of a product. You have to be either
First,
Cheapest,
Best.
Right now, Parallels has all three since there's nothing else out there (Virtual PC doesn't count). When VMWare version comes out, Parallels will still have been first, they'll probably still be cheaper and "Best" will be interesting.
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evamedia said:oooo...recognise that icon in their dock
http://cdn.rsc02.net/ig.rsc02.net/responsysimages/vmwi/__RS_CP__/mac_screenshot_large.png [vmware site]
haha - Brillant!!! I didn't notice.
Good eye!
-David
ccparallels
Member
Why do they have something so uninteresting as calendar, and an empty on at that, though I realize that is the extent of PC usage for some people.
Wrong Forum DAs
VMWare forums are at http://www.vmware.com/community/index.jspa so why don't you go there and suck-up. These forums are for Parallels not VMWare.
So long, good bye.
VMWare forums are at http://www.vmware.com/community/index.jspa so why don't you go there and suck-up. These forums are for Parallels not VMWare.
So long, good bye.
P
Parallels User
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Dude,KaiserX said:VMWare forums are at http://www.vmware.com/community/index.jspa so why don't you go there and suck-up. These forums are for Parallels not VMWare.
So long, good bye.
Chill. I've been a customer of Parallels since beta 3 and it's a great product. There's been a lot of discussions on these boards about what VMWare may bring to the table. I'm only passing on what I felt was relevent.
Considering Microsoft didn't write any of VPC, I can see why they tuck their tails and run. They basically scalped what Connectix had done, tweaked it slightly (it took forever for them to even make that codebase work on the G5) only to get the intellectual property rights for their windows based virtualization. They never cared about the Mac side despite the lip service they gave. Oh well. Thankfully Parallels DOES seem to care, even if their support is apparently so overtaxed they can't make appearances here in the forums any longer. Hopefully VMWare will care too.
I welcome VMWare to the table. Hopefully they will bring a lot of the features Parallels has simply ignored. If nothing else, I expect the competition to knock Parallels off their laurels.
Microsoft's VirtualPC announcement is expected. When they mean it'd be like doing it from scratch, they mean it because they'd have to figure out waht they are doing. The basis of their virtualization is portable. Most people don't know this, but VirtalPC 5 for Windows was ported to OS/2 a back before Connectix got bought. The virtualization layer is portable separate from the host OS services. The host OS services are already written for the Mac, so it should be a matter of replacing the emulation chunk with the virtualization hcunk and tweaking some glue. A project that would be very doable for someone familiar with the code. With a little extra work, the cores could both be included and the proper one choosen at runtime to produce a Universal binary of VirtualPC. This is already possible with open projects, such as Qemu. Why doesn't Microsoft do it? They don't feel like exerting the effort because they can't dominate the market.
Microsoft's VirtualPC announcement is expected. When they mean it'd be like doing it from scratch, they mean it because they'd have to figure out waht they are doing. The basis of their virtualization is portable. Most people don't know this, but VirtalPC 5 for Windows was ported to OS/2 a back before Connectix got bought. The virtualization layer is portable separate from the host OS services. The host OS services are already written for the Mac, so it should be a matter of replacing the emulation chunk with the virtualization hcunk and tweaking some glue. A project that would be very doable for someone familiar with the code. With a little extra work, the cores could both be included and the proper one choosen at runtime to produce a Universal binary of VirtualPC. This is already possible with open projects, such as Qemu. Why doesn't Microsoft do it? They don't feel like exerting the effort because they can't dominate the market.
Chris Price
Junior Member
n9yty said:Considering Microsoft didn't write any of VPC, I can see why they tuck their tails and run. They basically scalped what Connectix had done, tweaked it slightly (it took forever for them to even make that codebase work on the G5) only to get the intellectual property rights for their windows based virtualization. They never cared about the Mac side despite the lip service they gave. Oh well. Thankfully Parallels DOES seem to care, even if their support is apparently so overtaxed they can't make appearances here in the forums any longer. Hopefully VMWare will care too.
Sorry, but you're way off on the VPC team. The G5 did not have Little Endian mode, which was what powered Virtual PC. A huge part of the program had to be re-written. The reason why the G5 only provides marginally better performance is not because of Microsoft, it's because the PowerPC lost the ability to rapidly translate x86 code. The fact that the G5 can emulate at the speed it can is because of the code Microsoft wrote long after the purchase fo Virtual PC.
Microsoft abandoned VPC because the marketplace is saturated, not because of MBU incompetence. Also, Virtual PC on Windows is now freeware, so Microsoft can't justify charging Mac users as easily. Plus Virtual PC Express (the newest version) will be bundled with Vista Ultimate Edition.
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